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Hookdup
post Jun 18 2016, 10:38 PM
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ok, so this is not about w2w. all about track days / hpde.
I am at a stumbling point, participating in Porsche Club HPDE,
Black/Red Advanced Racer Group, I am getting passed by 2016 Cayman Gt4's, and 911 Gt3's., and newer cup cars.
Very comfortable in the groups, 50% pass/ 50% I pass.....

I am at the point of sliding the car, just to keep up, albeit controlled.

Have I reached the limit of a 4th gen?

The car is a 1998 Trans Am, built by Wheel to Wheel for competition in the 1998 Motorola Cup Series,
then Grand Am gt, then AIX,Ite..........

Should I Accept as is, or is there something to do (cost effectively) to be quasi-competitive..
(Remember, it is only HPDE/track days, not competition)

Specs are: 1998 Pontiac Trans Am, ls6 (little cam, 392 RWHP, full cage,, 3650 w/ driver, nascar front bar, one off adjustable rear bar,
heim jointed rear links (all)
heim /roto-jointed front upper and lower arms.
Auburn R/R carrier, 3.9 rear,
295/35 Hoosier R6's...
Full Cage,
New Trans,rear, brakes, tires, wheels etc..
ALl updated....

Have I reached the limit?\
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Hookdup
post Jun 19 2016, 12:20 PM
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Thanks for the input, I will look into the weight thing.
Thinking, I could do front and rear glass. I know the rear hatch is heavy as well, possible to fabricate a new one.
As far as all else. It has been this way since it was built.
Does have full cage, nascar door bars, petty bar, no a/c, mini cage around bottom and back of fuel cell.
Possible to strip out front and rear bumpers to skin, but then we start adding a safety reduction.

I currently have the 295s on the original 17x11 CCWs, and 275 h2O's on 9, and 275 BFG comp2's on 9s for spares.
ANd a set of NT01's in 275 to replace the hoosiers when done..
SHocks are stock bilsteins, with coilover adapters, and corner balanced to 49.3%.

The rear is loose, so my education needs to begin on how to adjust my bars, any ideas?

I do all my own work. and I may have pre-loaded the front bar by accident when I put in the front upper and lower arms last week.(IMG:http://www.ponycars.net/images/tempimages/rich/IMG_2652_08-01-2014.jpg) (IMG:http://www.ponycars.net/images/tempimages/rich/571.jpg)
(IMG:http://www.ponycars.net/images/tempimages/rich/IMG_1772-L.jpg)
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Hookdup   THE TRACK LIMIT OF A 4th GEN?   Jun 18 2016, 10:38 PM
Steve91T   Man seems like you're on the heavy side. My LT...   Jun 18 2016, 11:46 PM
WarShrike   Well, you're kinda racing against cars that in...   Jun 18 2016, 11:56 PM
pharmd   While I haven't done a lot of HPDE I have ofte...   Jun 19 2016, 12:00 AM
nape   QUOTE (Hookdup @ Jun 18 2016, 05:38 PM) H...   Jun 19 2016, 03:29 AM
Hookdup   Thanks for the input, I will look into the weight ...   Jun 19 2016, 12:20 PM
Hookdup   Guess keeping up with, and some times passing ...   Jun 19 2016, 12:27 PM
Steve91T   Oh wow that thing looks awesome. But I'm reall...   Jun 19 2016, 02:37 PM
CrashTestDummy   I'm with Steve on the weight thing. Where are ...   Jun 19 2016, 03:04 PM
Hookdup   Pics are old when first got car, everything was ad...   Jun 19 2016, 04:15 PM
bubba353z   QUOTE (Hookdup @ Jun 19 2016, 12:15 PM) I...   Jun 19 2016, 05:51 PM
Steve91T   Usually softer rear will help oversteer. What are ...   Jun 19 2016, 04:34 PM
trackbird   Did they melt lead into any of the rear cage tubes...   Jun 19 2016, 06:09 PM
Hookdup   Chrome moly cage, log books do not specify,as I re...   Jun 19 2016, 10:34 PM
79T/A   That car is nowhere near the limits. Should be abl...   Jun 19 2016, 10:49 PM
79T/A   Flattening the rear blades will make the rear bar ...   Jun 19 2016, 10:53 PM
Steve91T   Any in car videos of the car in action?   Jun 19 2016, 11:21 PM
Ojustracing   Hookdup What tracks have you run this car at and ...   Jun 20 2016, 01:12 PM
Hookdup   I have never ventured beyond NJMP, both tracks Lig...   Jun 21 2016, 12:03 AM
Hookdup   http://www.ponycars.net/images/tempimages/...JM_DE...   Jun 21 2016, 12:22 AM
Steve91T   There are fixes for the 6.0. Do them now and it sh...   Jun 21 2016, 05:02 PM
Hookdup   No actual videos, Functionality is more important,...   Jun 21 2016, 11:59 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (Hookdup @ Jun 21 2016, 07:59 PM) N...   Jun 22 2016, 01:21 PM
WarShrike   Those swaybars are the bees knees. Always wondere...   Jun 22 2016, 02:42 AM

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