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Hookdup
post Jun 18 2016, 10:38 PM
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ok, so this is not about w2w. all about track days / hpde.
I am at a stumbling point, participating in Porsche Club HPDE,
Black/Red Advanced Racer Group, I am getting passed by 2016 Cayman Gt4's, and 911 Gt3's., and newer cup cars.
Very comfortable in the groups, 50% pass/ 50% I pass.....

I am at the point of sliding the car, just to keep up, albeit controlled.

Have I reached the limit of a 4th gen?

The car is a 1998 Trans Am, built by Wheel to Wheel for competition in the 1998 Motorola Cup Series,
then Grand Am gt, then AIX,Ite..........

Should I Accept as is, or is there something to do (cost effectively) to be quasi-competitive..
(Remember, it is only HPDE/track days, not competition)

Specs are: 1998 Pontiac Trans Am, ls6 (little cam, 392 RWHP, full cage,, 3650 w/ driver, nascar front bar, one off adjustable rear bar,
heim jointed rear links (all)
heim /roto-jointed front upper and lower arms.
Auburn R/R carrier, 3.9 rear,
295/35 Hoosier R6's...
Full Cage,
New Trans,rear, brakes, tires, wheels etc..
ALl updated....

Have I reached the limit?\
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Hookdup
post Jun 21 2016, 11:59 PM
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No actual videos,
Functionality is more important,
Will some day explore data, but for now its seat of the pants!
I will have to go backwards from r6's, as they are nearing life cycle.
i have a set of Nt-01's in 275, which I hope to get the rest of the year out of..
We shall see.
As far as alignment, (not trusting anyone, I multiple times checked my measurements,
And are at
3-3.5 camber LF, 2-2.5 Rf
toe near zero.
( no turn tables, so car was driven back and forth 50 ft, after each adjustment..
Issues do come up, I just installed Spohn Spherical upper arms, and Roto Joint lowers,
Problem is, they must be removed to make adjustments,

Lots of time spent..
Thank you everyone, and more insight, please contribute
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Hookdup   THE TRACK LIMIT OF A 4th GEN?   Jun 18 2016, 10:38 PM
Steve91T   Man seems like you're on the heavy side. My LT...   Jun 18 2016, 11:46 PM
WarShrike   Well, you're kinda racing against cars that in...   Jun 18 2016, 11:56 PM
pharmd   While I haven't done a lot of HPDE I have ofte...   Jun 19 2016, 12:00 AM
nape   QUOTE (Hookdup @ Jun 18 2016, 05:38 PM) H...   Jun 19 2016, 03:29 AM
Hookdup   Thanks for the input, I will look into the weight ...   Jun 19 2016, 12:20 PM
Hookdup   Guess keeping up with, and some times passing ...   Jun 19 2016, 12:27 PM
Steve91T   Oh wow that thing looks awesome. But I'm reall...   Jun 19 2016, 02:37 PM
CrashTestDummy   I'm with Steve on the weight thing. Where are ...   Jun 19 2016, 03:04 PM
Hookdup   Pics are old when first got car, everything was ad...   Jun 19 2016, 04:15 PM
bubba353z   QUOTE (Hookdup @ Jun 19 2016, 12:15 PM) I...   Jun 19 2016, 05:51 PM
Steve91T   Usually softer rear will help oversteer. What are ...   Jun 19 2016, 04:34 PM
trackbird   Did they melt lead into any of the rear cage tubes...   Jun 19 2016, 06:09 PM
Hookdup   Chrome moly cage, log books do not specify,as I re...   Jun 19 2016, 10:34 PM
79T/A   That car is nowhere near the limits. Should be abl...   Jun 19 2016, 10:49 PM
79T/A   Flattening the rear blades will make the rear bar ...   Jun 19 2016, 10:53 PM
Steve91T   Any in car videos of the car in action?   Jun 19 2016, 11:21 PM
Ojustracing   Hookdup What tracks have you run this car at and ...   Jun 20 2016, 01:12 PM
Hookdup   I have never ventured beyond NJMP, both tracks Lig...   Jun 21 2016, 12:03 AM
Hookdup   http://www.ponycars.net/images/tempimages/...JM_DE...   Jun 21 2016, 12:22 AM
Steve91T   There are fixes for the 6.0. Do them now and it sh...   Jun 21 2016, 05:02 PM
Hookdup   No actual videos, Functionality is more important,...   Jun 21 2016, 11:59 PM
Steve91T   QUOTE (Hookdup @ Jun 21 2016, 07:59 PM) N...   Jun 22 2016, 01:21 PM
WarShrike   Those swaybars are the bees knees. Always wondere...   Jun 22 2016, 02:42 AM

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