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z28jeff
post Dec 12 2006, 12:57 PM
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I was doing an autotrader search for 3rd gen Camaros in the 89-92 year range and was surprised with the prices I was seeing. I only did a 200 mile search and got about a full page of Camaros in the 7k-10k price range. And a few of them were near 15k. Granted, they were the super low mileage garage queens. But come on, you can get a really nice low mileage LS1 car for that kind of coin. Most of the cars in the 7-10k range had between 25k and 50k miles on them. This is what struck me as odd. I bought my 94 Z28 6-speed hardtop last summer with only 28k in absolutely mint (and I mean M-I-N-T) condition for 7k. And as far as LT1 4th gens go, that seems to be the top of the pricerange.
Is this a sign of things to come? Is my car going to increase in value once the 5th gens come out? This doesn't make any sence to me.

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CrashTestDummy
post Dec 20 2006, 01:13 AM
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Did you ever put together a parts list for that brake system? I followed it for a while on the 3rd Gen site, but kind of lost track. I thought that would be nice for the CP car.
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post Dec 20 2006, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Dec 19 2006, 05:13 PM) *
Did you ever put together a parts list for that brake system? I followed it for a while on the 3rd Gen site, but kind of lost track. I thought that would be nice for the CP car.

Yes I did, I gave the complete rundown on parts, bracket demensions I had machined, my offset specs and calculations if you used other rims, etc as well as the offset of the aluminum custom G-body roadrace hubs Doug at Global West had still on CAD file and mocked up a set for me that fit my F-body dimesions I needed.
All that info is on TGO somewhere I believe under a "Wilwood" search of the brake forum.
The package started out life as the 4th gen big brake srp kit that I finagaled(sp?)wilwood into swaping a few parts like the radial brackets for another better offset and spead choice for my spindle mounting. Most everything else was custom made like lined, brackets, hardware with safetywire provisions, hubcentric spacers for use of IROC "rears" on all 4 corners so I can rotate tires without dismounting fronts to rears rims. All this info is on TGO is 3 different posts documenting the build front and rear- tells what pads I have tried for balance and/or pedal feel, my mastercylinder and combo valves choice. Sorry, way too much to research and list here again- I don't retain that detail stuff off the top of my head- too many other car and various other projects to remeber specific details from a few years ago but its all there on TGO somewhere.

ps TGO sucks now. Money grubbing owners and nazi moderators, no more nitty gitty hardcore helping others for the love of cars crap- everything is muttered up with advetisement dollars and I think most of the good people are gone or just not as interested in the same old everyday bs rookie topics.

And back to the topic of this post- The same reason why 2nd gens are more valueable than 3rd gens, and so on. Age represents value (for the most part) However, my car will never greeatly amount to any nominal resale value due to it being an unpopular V6. Why a V6? Because I like having something unique and love skeptical people asking why, I then give them a ride and they come out smiling with a whole new perspective- I like drivng something that is marked an underdog and the challange of making that respectable- I feel I have done that so far very well to date- and still more to come- I built this car knowing I will NEVER sell it, so what its worth resale wise is not of importance. Most people build garage queens simular to the extent I built this car and drive other normal off the lot cookie cutter commuter cars- I too have those garage queens and this is my version of a daily driver commuter car: only its a non cookie cutter version. I screw with everything I own- it hads to have personallity and not be identical to anything else anyone else has. Thats why even my slow car is built. Now you know "why a V6" in case this crossed anyones mind. I actually only drive this car maybe 3-4 times a month at most, wife drives it daily- she loves it. But when I do steal it for a little run here or there, Iit is actually the most fun car I have even though it is the slowest by far. this car feels like a damn jetfighter in response imputs and the g's get my blood going- for a big car it drives like my mini cooper in size feeling- light and limber. trust me, build a V6. (IMG:http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Dec 27 2006, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE (V6RSR @ Dec 20 2006, 05:02 AM) *
ps TGO sucks now.


It really does. I only go over there now, to be an arse-hole when someone like Kandied tries to post more of his BS.

Good to see you are still around Dean. I need to make my way down that way one of these days.
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post Dec 27 2006, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (Dewey316 @ Dec 27 2006, 11:55 AM) *
QUOTE (V6RSR @ Dec 20 2006, 05:02 AM) *
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It really does. I only go over there now, to be an arse-hole when someone like Kandied tries to post more of his BS.

Good to see you are still around Dean. I need to make my way down that way one of these days.

If you ever make it down be sure and contact me first so I can be availiable.

I am actually taking a quick break right now. I tore apart (gutted all but the dash) the Camaro's interior today and am redoing it- including new Momo seats. She was getting worse for wear.
17 years old and seen better days since its a daily driver & kid hauler. With my daughter @ 14 now, I figure I HOPEFULLY won't find anymore chewing gum surprises in the future.
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post Dec 29 2006, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE (V6RSR @ Dec 27 2006, 06:11 PM) *
I am actually taking a quick break right now.


I am actualy taking a break this whole year. I'm not doing any racing, and not doing anything to the car this year. I'm taking all of the money, and going to Africa. I probably won't be down there this summer, since I'll be in Africa from Mid June thru July, and that is really taking up all my spare money. Maybe next winter, or spring of 08. I want to get down to Seca with the Audi guys one of these day's too.
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z28jeff   Why are 3rd gens worth more than 4th gens?   Dec 12 2006, 12:57 PM
cccbock   QUOTE (z28jeff @ Dec 12 2006, 07:57 AM) I...   Dec 12 2006, 02:18 PM
axoid   I think Bock is right. 3rd gens are more that lik...   Dec 12 2006, 02:54 PM
mitchntx   The last 3 4th gens I bought, for CMC use all toge...   Dec 12 2006, 04:37 PM
z28jeff   Yeah there are cheap ones all over the place. But ...   Dec 12 2006, 05:07 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (z28jeff @ Dec 12 2006, 12:07 PM) I...   Dec 12 2006, 05:13 PM
nape   QUOTE (trackbird @ Dec 12 2006, 11:13 AM)...   Dec 12 2006, 11:09 PM
robz71lm7   When I was looking to buy an F-body I was original...   Dec 12 2006, 06:43 PM
Joe Silva   I saw the same trend when i last checked what my o...   Dec 12 2006, 09:45 PM
CrazyHawaiian   I don't understand it myself. The prices are g...   Dec 13 2006, 08:23 AM
trackbird   I think the deal is that once a car bottoms out at...   Dec 13 2006, 01:26 PM
marka   Howdy, QUOTE (trackbird @ Dec 13 2006, 08...   Dec 13 2006, 04:54 PM
patred   Some of the people advertising on the thirdgen.org...   Dec 13 2006, 02:31 PM
trackbird   True Pat, there's tons of overpriced "jun...   Dec 13 2006, 02:49 PM
patred   QUOTE (trackbird @ Dec 13 2006, 09:49 AM)...   Dec 13 2006, 04:23 PM
CMC #37   QUOTE (patred @ Dec 13 2006, 11:23 AM) QU...   Dec 13 2006, 09:20 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (CMC #37 @ Dec 13 2006, 04:20 PM) Q...   Dec 13 2006, 09:50 PM
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Joe Silva   I sold my MR2 for $6400 w/full Estock setup a...   Dec 13 2006, 08:50 PM
K Shaw   The prices for nice third gen camaros and fox stan...   Dec 14 2006, 02:13 AM
ws6transam   As coincidence would have it, I will be taking the...   Dec 17 2006, 12:48 AM
z28jeff   QUOTE (ws6transam @ Dec 16 2006, 07:48 PM...   Dec 18 2006, 07:24 PM
trackbird   QUOTE (z28jeff @ Dec 18 2006, 02:24 PM) S...   Dec 18 2006, 08:58 PM
V6RSR   QUOTE (ws6transam @ Dec 16 2006, 04:48 PM...   Dec 19 2006, 04:31 PM
z28jeff   QUOTE (V6RSR @ Dec 19 2006, 11:31 AM) I r...   Dec 19 2006, 05:01 PM
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BumpaD_Z28   QUOTE (ws6transam @ Dec 16 2006, 05:48 PM...   Dec 18 2006, 01:21 AM
CrashTestDummy   Yeah, I'm getting to the point I really think ...   Dec 19 2006, 01:47 AM
Shortcutsleeping   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Dec 18 2006, 07:4...   Dec 19 2006, 02:31 AM
CrashTestDummy   Did you ever put together a parts list for that br...   Dec 20 2006, 01:13 AM
V6RSR   QUOTE (CrashTestDummy @ Dec 19 2006, 05:1...   Dec 20 2006, 10:02 AM
Dewey316   QUOTE (V6RSR @ Dec 20 2006, 05:02 AM) ps ...   Dec 27 2006, 07:55 PM
V6RSR   QUOTE (Dewey316 @ Dec 27 2006, 11:55 AM) ...   Dec 27 2006, 11:11 PM
Dewey316   QUOTE (V6RSR @ Dec 27 2006, 06:11 PM) I a...   Dec 29 2006, 05:07 PM
CrashTestDummy   Are you just cleaning, or replacing stuff (other t...   Dec 29 2006, 04:08 PM
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CrashTestDummy   So the dash is in good shape? I replaced the much...   Dec 30 2006, 02:54 AM
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